Guillermo del Toro explains the alphabet behind every great monster, from Godzilla to the Pale Man, as Pan's Labyrinth returns to theaters in 3D and 4K for its 20th anniversary.
We talk about why fairy tales can teach you to obey or teach you to rebel, the Shape of Water shot that took six hours, why monster romance took off, what Ray Harryhausen taught him about a lion at rest, why he calls The Exorcist the best thing that ever happened to the Catholic Church, Ofelia, Mercedes and Carmen in 2026, and why the fairy world of Pan's Labyrinth finally gets its depth in 3D.
The Mike Muse Show airs on SiriusXM Urban View, channel 126. Mike Muse is an ABC News Multiplatform Contributor and co-host of Sway in the Morning.
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0:00 Why I was nervous
1:47 Guillermo del Toro joins the show
2:20 Political without being political
2:53 Fairy tales that teach you to rebel
5:16 Cinderella with a Molotov cocktail
6:10 Boots Riley and the distrust of imagination
8:20 The Shape of Water shot that took six hours
10:20 Why monster romance took off
13:21 Monsters as resistance
15:04 Monsters have an alphabet
16:02 Ray Harryhausen's lesson on the lion
19:22 Jaws, Alien, and the cosmic monster
21:22 Fear, faith, and The Exorcist
22:24 Ofelia, Mercedes, and Carmen
25:42 Pan's Labyrinth in 2026
27:27 The end of the Boomer world
28:01 Why Pan's Labyrinth is now in 3D
30:04 Cinderella, coming 2030
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